hey everyone, i was up at the unnamed wall yesterday and had a sad experience. i found a bunch of rockstar cans and tea bags and cliff bar wrappers at the base of the thrill is gone and then in the cave behind bingo world there were lawn chairs and stashed bags. me and my partner cleaned up all the trash and packed it out, but left the lawn chairs and bags. with the short approach to this area it seems weird that things could not be packed-in and out easily from the crag. we are all guilty of accidentally dropping things sometimes while out there, but i think that now that a lot of the snow is melting it is more apparent how much has been left behind.
so i just wanted to give everyone the heads-up that when you are out there this time of season keep an eye out for trash that you can pack-out. if we don't respect and take care of our crags no one will.
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Hyalite flotsam and jetsam
Hi all,
I'm with Alan and think jetsam like lawn chairs and bags should not be left around Hyalite. I mean really, do you really need a lawn chair at the Bingo Cave? The killer access we've been enjoying all winter is not guaranteed. It's all dependent primarily on funding from the USFS and County plus anything the public can raise or is willing to contribute. With budgets being what they are, I would put it a 50-50 chance the funding could dry up at any moment. Thus, we need to treat Hyalite and the surrounding landscape with respect and care. Remember, it was exactly this sort of behavior that almost closed the Scorched Earth crag years ago.
If you are responsible for leaving the lawn chairs, etc at the Unnamed Wall, please remove them soon or at least let us know that you will be done and removing it soon. The road closes on March 31 and i will make a point of going up there before then to clean up any garbage I find. Without knowing your intentions for the chairs, I'll have to assume you plan on abandoning them. PM me if you want to stay anonymous.
As far as flotsam goes, it is pathetic that anyone would leave cans or tea bags, or any other litter, around. Come on folks! I thought the "pack it in -- pack it out" battle was won years ago. It's lame!
Onward,
Joe Josephson
responsibility
My friend and I are the ones who hiked the lawn chair up to bingo cave, AND the rope. I spend many hours cleaning out trash in hyalite, and I see no problem having a lawn chair in Bingo. I climbed Northwest Passage, and the chair was nice for the belayer. It was also nice when Sam sent Inglorious Bastards. Cimbing Gear is not trash. I clean up Trash. Every day. My friend cleans up GARBAGE bags of trash in the spring when the snow melts. The chair is nice alternative to a crick in the neck. If you still have a problem with it, I will remove it.
removal
Joe,
the lawn chair WILL be removed from the cave. I know the last day is the 31st, and before then you will no longer see it.
thanks for the note on trash
Stupidity or Ignorance
A friend and I went up to crag at Practice and were suprised to find a large fire-pit. It was well used with crushed aluminum beer cans and all (didn't see any glass) built right on the belay platform for Theoretical. I can't imagine that a climber would have done this. Mind boggling.