Pine Creek Road

Hi friends. Just wanted to drop a note on an experience we had yesterday traveling back from pine creek. The last stretch of road just before hitting the pavement was drifted to the point that two vehicles in front of us were stuck in the drifted section which spanned probably 1/4 of a mile in distance. The vehicle I was in as well as a subaru behind us asked permission from a house at the corner before the drift to drive on her property to circumnavigate the drifted secton of forest service road. She hesitated, but granted us permission. Unfortunately the road we thought we were on did not have distinctive tracks, and we ended up roaming through a couple of fields before reaching the paved road. We were soon confronted by a couple, who were apparently different property owners of land we had crossed. These people were rightfully upset, as we had trespassed on their property. What prompted me to post this information, however, was that they had had this experience several times before. Apparently they frequently are approached by people stuck in this section, many of whom have been climbers and other recreationists. They told us the forest service discourages them from plowing the road even to access their own driveways, as it encourages winter access to this area. Had the party I was with known that this road frequently drifts to this extent, we may have noted the drifting on the way in, and decided not to spend the day up pine creek. I personally do not want climbers to get a bad rap with the local landowners for being the foolish partys who are constantly getting stuck. This situation turned into an ordeal for the property owners, who took it upon themselves to return to the other stranded vehicles and offer assistance. The vehicle originally stuck was a large 4wd truck, about as worthy of the conditions as you can get. It was buried up to its bumper. In summary, if the road up to pine creek is drifted on your way in, you may not get out, or worse in a need to get out you may cause unneccessary inconveniences to others. Perhaps this is already well-known info, but my party and all those stuck were in a state of ignorance, so hopefully this might increase the knowledge of others less informed. ps blue is in nicely