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I move out of Bozeman for grad school and it turns out to be an awesome ice year, go figure. The flip side, while there hasn't been enough ice to climb (NC has ice for a few days every winter!), the rock and the water is great. Tis the 2nd day of winter and I just paddled 7miles, and spent 3 days last weekend climbing at the Obed, TN. Heck, even the multipitch at Laruel Knob [url]http://carolinaclimbers.org/cpg135/displayimage.php?album=71&pos=11[/url] was good during the beginning of Dec. Thanks for all the updates, tis exciting to hear from afar what is happening.

This is a forum to help educate climbers on pros and cons of membership in various climbing-related organizations, should they have an interest in joining one or more.

An article on the front page of today's Chronicle, about the 3 guys they're looking for on Mount Hood, quoted Conrad as saying he pays $10K for rescue insurance. This reminded me of a problem I encountered trying to get a new [i]life[/i] insurance policy last year; when I truthfully indicated that I do occasionally take overseas climbing trips, the offered rates came back about eight-fold what they would otherwise have been!

Ice climbing seems quite pedestrian when compared to what these two fellows did... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBnQmC7VGoQ Or.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd8AJdcnw4A If you find worthy stuff on the net, share it!

Hello Ice Climbers, If you are interested in ice climbing and care about access to Hyalite Canyon near Bozeman this is one meeting you do not want to miss. [b]In light of the recent decisions regarding the Gallatin National Forest travel plan, the South West Montana Climbers Coalition (SMCC) is holding an open education and planning meeting at SPIRE CLIMBING CENTER in Bozeman Thursday December 21 at 7:00 pm. This meeting is free and open to the public and is highly encouraged that you come and please ask everyone you know interested in climbing to attend. Tom Kalakay, Bill Dockins

I have a friend whose willing to get out on ice, but not to buy crampon compatible boots. He has his tele boots though and I know that you can get toe bails that fit them. My question is does the duck toe on the tele boot severly impede ice climbing? Anyone ever try this? Thanks Keese

How about a new forum for "New Routes?" where info on new routes can be posted and archived in one place to serve as a psuedo-online guidebook. Just a thought...comments?

I dont know what anyone can do about it, but spam is turning this forum into a site for porn, viagra, or just general bs! While I do support all of the above mentioned it just seems sorta out of place, not to mention fuckin annoying. Something like 7 out of the 10 newest post are spam. Anyone else have something to say about it?

Since I dont have have everyones email address, I thought this would be next best way. To all the climbers that I know and that know me, I want to say hello from South America. Have fun up there, with I could be climbing with you all. Cheers, Peter Ramos Petergramos@msn.com

So here's my story. Winter 04/05 I picked up some Beal 9mm doubles (Verdon II?). I love the things, for their size they are pretty light, and as a first set of doubles they have proven themselves burly on ice and rock. Last night I was forced to cut about 10m off the end of one of them, from what looked like rock-fall damage to the core. So my question comes in as, do I chop the other one to match (at about 50m), or do I just replace the one cord, only to have them wear out at different times? Are 50m doubles going to be limiting in Hyalite?